Dr. Burke,
First, I would be happy to serve/chair the engagement committee, I am an
excellent event planner!
Second, Thank you for sharing information and your perspective on the
challenges facing Social Emotional Learning (SEL) amidst political
polarization and the allegations made by some critics about its potential
ties to CRT. The "Trojan Horse" theory in one article was particularly
disturbing to read, especially since I serve on my District/Campus SEL
committee and I know the carefully crafted lessons we create and the
evidence-based practices we align to them. The need for SEL to remain
politically neutral, grounded in empirical evidence, and mindful of
potential unintended consequences is crucial. As educators and researchers,
we must think critically about the practices we promote, ensure they are
developmentally appropriate, and perhaps incorporate elements of
cognitive-behavioral therapy to mitigate risks. I look forward to
continuing this conversation and collaborating to navigate these complex
challenges.
Diane
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 3:39 PM Perrott, Lisa J <lbperrott(a)tamu.edu> wrote:
 Thanks Dr. Burke - definitely important considerations for us to
discuss.
 Lisa Bowman-Perrott, Ph.D.
 Associate Professor
 Haynes Faculty Fellow
 Department of Educational Psychology
 Special Education Division
 Texas A&M University
 College Station, TX 77843-4225
 (979) 862-3879 (office)
 (979) 862-1256 (fax)
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 *Subject:* [Project.diverse] SEL issues at CEC
 Thanks to everyone that turned out for CEC- we will try to do more to pull
 everyone together more often- maybe we need a social event/connect/engage
 committee…😊 I was trying to figure out what the SEL issues at the
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 Thanks to everyone that turned out for CEC- we will try to do more to pull
 everyone together more often- maybe we need a social event/connect/engage
 committee…😊
 I was trying  to figure out what the SEL issues at the conference people
 were talking about since I have supported SEL and even framed several
 studies around it in the past- was surprised to hear that one…and was
 flipping through the internet headlines-
 
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2023/09/social-emotional-learning-under-fire
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https://www.npr.org/2022/09/26/1124082878/how-social-emotional-learning-b...
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/03/27/desantis-adminis...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/03/28/social-emotional-lear...
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 All makes for interesting conversations- and you have other contrasts on
 it:
https://www.the74million.org/article/social-emotional-learning-racial-rec...
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 https://www.ascd.org/el/articles/why-sel-alone-isnt-enough
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https://www.edsurge.com/news/2021-02-17-citing-racism-and-years-of-bullyi...
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https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/virginia-teacher-says-making-kids-behave-is...
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https://wisconsindailystar.com/news/national/virginia-teacher-says-positi...
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 Just a small sampling really…and doesn’t include the academic literature-
 there is an internal conflict at Yale for some time where SEL mostly comes
 out of to indeed to tie SEL from being politically neutral and science
 based to jumping on the CRT bandwagon to avoid the withering criticism and
 shaming out of the activist wing- in doing so- it does politicize it- as
 CRT driven policies and practices is about forcing people often to take
 sides- that part of the ideology it comes out of is baked in- which is
 explicitly activist based and proponents often take anti-empirical
 positions. Which is much of my issue with it- we are having this same issue
 with PBIS. And the push back against it as a driver for public policy is
 not so nuanced- throws the baby out with the bathwater. It is a nuanced
 conversation in a time in education and public policy that doesn’t do
 nuance.
 One of the empirical concerns I actually have now over SEL is that if done
 poorly- might lead to intragenic effects. Intragenic being defined as when
 the person providing care does harm...sometimes inadvertently or as an
 unintended consequence. Those that have been around a while remember it was
 a problem that surfaced with drug prevention programs like DARE- that
 introducing the ideas too young developmentally had the oppositive effect
 and increased drug use.
 In this case- it is the promotion of emotional reasoning if the other
 parts like self-regulation aren’t taught well that is a problem- emotional
 reasoning is a cognitive error or distortion in cognitive behavioral
 therapy and can lead to attribution bias around interpretation of a
 triggering event and based on the attribution you give to it- in that the
 event is often misinterpreted in the least charitable way possible. In CBT-
 we focus on self-questioning- basically fact checking the event before
 acting. In EBD we talk about it in terms of social information processing
 problems- so think of the somewhat disagreeable student in the hall way
 that gets bumped and wants to start a fight thinking it was on purpose-
 when- well- it might have just been an accidental bump- see the same thing
 in bars and nightclubs by the way…my misspent 20s. Add another thing to the
 list for all of you to help us figure out and think clearly about…MDB
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