Here is a talk I was directed to by a colleague- Bonnie Grossen of Doug Carnine who worked with him and Zig Englemann- the developers of Direct Instruction from University of Oregon. He was a big part of the creation of the What Works Clearing House- and worked with the Bush Administration with Ted Kennedy’s office to craft NCLB and promote the evidence-based practice. https://us06web.zoom.us/rec/play/Mn-Gem1_NIpfmDItpXetzoP73Sa6RvSVw1KbowW_... He is retired now sadly- the slide I think on “Are non-evidence-based instructional programs racist?” is likely a good point of discussion. The current dismantlement of evidence-based practices putting the field back 30-40 years. Mack Mack D. Burke, Ph.D. Department of Educational Psychology Applied Behavior Analysis and Special Education Programs Behavioral Education & Assessment Research (BEAR Lab) School of Education, Baylor University