Please share with any students who might be interested in this course. The only
prerequisite is completion of WRC 1013 & WRC 1023, so this would be a great upper
division free elective for any students needing one.
CLA 3513.002: "The American Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War in U.S. Military and
Foreign Policy"
Dr. MacLellan
TR 1-2:15pm
Thucydides is arguably the most influential political thinker from the Ancient
Mediterranean World. His History of the Peloponnesian War, "a possession for all
time" as he called it, documented the defeat of his native Athens and the political
and social choices that informed and followed the collapse of its naval empire. This
course will explore the rich history of Thucydidean readership, which includes influential
leaders and political thinkers from Machiavelli to Abraham Lincoln, with a special focus
on how Thucydides' theories and historiographical method was informed by his
intellectual milieu and the influence of his ideas on American military and foreign policy
in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
One UTSA Circle | San Antonio, Texas 78249
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 4:28 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain(a)utsa.edu>
Subject: Re: CLA 4973
Thank you, Miranda!
Here is a short description:
CLA 3513.002: "The American Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War in U.S. Military and
Foreign Policy"
Dr. MacLellan
TR 1-2:15pm
Thucydides is arguably the most influential political thinker from the Ancient
Mediterranean World. His History of the Peloponnesian War, "a possession for all
time" as he called it, documented the defeat of his native Athens and the political
and social choices that informed and followed the collapse of its naval empire. This
course will explore the rich history of Thucydidean readership, which includes influential
leaders and political thinkers from Macchiavelli to Abraham Lincoln, with a special focus
on how Thucydides' theories and historiographical method was informed by his
intellectual milieu and the influence of his ideas on American military and foreign policy
in the 19th and 20th centuries.
All my best wishes,
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio
________________________________
From: Miranda Swain
Sent: 11 July 2019 15:33
To: Jessica Wright
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
Hi Dr. Wright,
That sounds good. Do you happen to have a short description of the class handy? I would
love to send that out on the advising list-serve so that all UTSA advisors know about the
class and can help us promote it.
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
One UTSA Circle | San Antonio, Texas 78249
Phone: 210-458-6513
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 3:24 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu<mailto:Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu>>
Subject: Re: CLA 4973
Dear Miranda,
The class is now cross-listed:
CLA 4973 ("American Thucydides," 5 students enrolled, cap of 10)
CLA 3513 ("American Thucydides," 0 students enrolled, cap of 15)
We just have to hit 20.
I will reach out to the other advisers to ask them to circulate information about the
3000-level class. I'll also email the undergrads to ask them to check whether they are
still enrolled.
All my best wishes,
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio
________________________________
From: Miranda Swain
Sent: 11 July 2019 13:03
To: Jessica Wright
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
Hi Dr. Wright,
I think there must have been a glitch because the students who were previously registered
were not automatically added back. I only know this because my student, Leanna Gomez, was
still not registered in CLA 4973 as of this morning (so I manually added her back in).
Another student of mine, Kelsey Kistner, was enrolled in HUM 4973, but I added her to CLA
4973 as our CSHU students can use HUM 4973 or CLA 4973 to satisfy their Seminar
requirement. I think cross-listed a few other courses with it will definitely help us out
with the enrolment.
This is the list of GLA advisors in Social Sciences Advising:
* Sarai Zamora
* Alicia Salinas
* Georgette Sano
* Paula Perilla-Duque
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:53 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu<mailto:Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu>>
Subject: Re: CLA 4973
Dear Miranda,
Thank you for your emails! Do you know why only 5 students are enrolled in the class now?
Is it possible that somebody unenrolled, or do you think it might be a glitch in the
system?
The COLFA minimum is 20 students, so this is our target. This is quite confusing, given
that the class cap is 10. We are working on cross-listing the course as CLA 3513, and
maybe also as an honors course, which will de facto raise the cap.
Do you happen to know the advisor for GLA? Stephen Cheney suggested that those students
might be interested.
All my best wishes,
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio
________________________________
From: Miranda Swain
Sent: 11 July 2019 09:13
To: Jessica Wright
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
I'm sorry please disregard my last email! I was able to help some students back into
the course and it now has five students (out of 10) enrolled in it. How many students need
to be in the class (to avoid having it cancelled again)?
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
One UTSA Circle | San Antonio, Texas 78249
Phone: 210-458-6513
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From: Miranda Swain
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:04 AM
To: Jessica Wright
<jessicalouise.wright@utsa.edu<mailto:jessicalouise.wright@utsa.edu>>
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
Hi Dr. Wright,
Do you know when students will be added back into 4973 this fall? I think you had
mentioned that they would repopulate the class with the students who were registered when
the class was cancelled. I don't see that a few of my students have been added back
though.
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
One UTSA Circle | San Antonio, Texas 78249
Phone: 210-458-6513
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu<mailto:Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu>>
Subject: Re: CLA 4973
Thank you!
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio
________________________________
From: Miranda Swain
Sent: 10 July 2019 15:59
To: Jessica Wright
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
Great! I look forward to that as well.
Yes, Leanna will need Seminar to graduate this fall.
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:59 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu<mailto:Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu>>
Subject: Re: CLA 4973
Thank you, Miranda! I really look forward to talking with you about cross-listing more
strategically for future semesters.
Can you tell if Leanna Gomez is in a position of having her graduation threatened if the
class is pulled?
All best wishes,
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio
________________________________
From: Miranda Swain
Sent: 10 July 2019 15:41
To: Jessica Wright
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
Hi Dr. Wright,
I had two emails right off the bat, but now that I'm looking I can see the second
email was from the same student! She emailed me twice in a panic. So I really only have
one panicked student at the moment (Leanna Gomez @01512238). Now that the class has been
re-opened I can no longer pull the class roster as it is just showing totally blank now.
I just saw your email about the course repopulating! That's great. I think
cross-listing Seminar with CLA 3513 might be helpful. I saw that the HUM and PHI Seminars
were cross-listed this fall so I thought if there are any other topics out there that
would be appropriate to cross-list (like the Scientific Revolution Seminar in PHI/HUM),
then that could be one section of Seminar that would have students from both majors which
would help the enrollment numbers. As for the CLA Seminar, I think exactly what you said
would be helpful. We could cross-list it with another CLA course, when appropriate. This
is something I see done in English every single semester so I know this does work pretty
well. If you'd like to meet in person I'd be happy to sit down with you to discuss
it in greater detail. I could show you some examples of how other departments have done
this over the years.
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
One UTSA Circle | San Antonio, Texas 78249
Phone: 210-458-6513
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:17 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu<mailto:Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu>>
Subject: Re: CLA 4973
Dear Miranda,
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly! I am so appreciative of your efforts in
this.
Could you please forward me the emails from the panicked students, or send me a list of
names? We can use that in making a case to keep the class on the books. In addition, would
it be possible for you to email them and ask them to re-enroll? Since the class was
cancelled and re-instated, it looks like it has 0 enrollments, and I would like to retain
the students who had signed up!
I am trying to find out if we can cross-list the Senior Seminar as CLA 3513. Would that
help encourage students who are not majors to enroll?
In the future, I think it might be a good idea to offer the Senior Seminars as different
sections of the same course. Could you tell me a little more about how you would envision
this working? The subject matter is so very different.
THANK YOU for all of your work in this. I know that there's a limit to what's
possible here, but I do at least want to try. It is such an important course for thinking
about the deep history of militarism and state violence.
All my best wishes,
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio
________________________________
From: Miranda Swain
Sent: 10 July 2019 15:03
To: Jessica Wright
Subject: RE: CLA 4973
Hi Dr. Wright,
I think promoting Senior Seminar is very difficult for non-majors to buy into since the
course is very rigorous and intensive. I really only see our CSHU majors take these
Seminars, and since we have so few CSHU students it's hard for the enrollment numbers
to go up. As a free elective option most students will lean more towards less intensive
courses. The last list we ran had right around 45 CSHU majors (I think) and since not all
of them are close to graduating the Seminar numbers are low. As for the UD CLA classes I
have been selling these as much as possible to all my students. I have gotten several of
my English majors into these classes, but I know the numbers would be higher ideally.
One way to try and get higher numbers in Seminars would be to combine the CLA, HUM, and
PHI Seminars into two sections. This way, either of the sections could satisfy this
requirement for any of those majors listed. I know that's not ideal, but if these were
the only two sections offered for all CLA, HUM, and PHI majors we might see some decent
enrollment numbers. I am seeing that the PHI Seminars are extremely low as well (there are
4 students in one section and 6 in another).
For those students needing 4973 to graduate this fall how should we go about handling
this? I have already gotten very panicked students emailing me that their class has been
cancelled and what does this mean for their graduation this fall.
Kind regards,
Miranda M. Swain, M.A.
Academic Advisor II
Arts & Humanities Advising Center | MS 4.01.50
The University of Texas at San Antonio
One UTSA Circle | San Antonio, Texas 78249
Phone: 210-458-6513
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From: Jessica Wright
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:19 PM
To: Miranda Swain <Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu<mailto:Miranda.Swain@utsa.edu>>
Subject: CLA 4973
Dear Miranda,
I do hope your summer is going well! I'm writing to ask for some urgent help
developing a strategy to increase enrollments in CLA 4973 (senior seminar: American
Thucydides) in the fall. At present, this class has only 6 students enrolled, and it will
be cancelled if we cannot get close to 20. We have a week to run an enrollment drive and
see what we can do. Are there any strategies that you can suggest? If it's helpful, I
can get the flier for the class to you ASAP.
Also, do you know if there's another period coming up where more students will enroll?
Or are we likely at max for the upper-division classes?
All my best wishes,
Jessica
Jessica L. Wright, PhD
Assistant Professor of Classics and Medical Humanities
Department of Philosophy and Classics
The University of Texas at San Antonio